The Skyrim Journal: Day 20

Read the last two journals here and here first.


A hundred hours of Skyrim. That’s how much I’ve played, so much so that it’s been almost disorienting in terms of my ideas of time and space. It’s sure made the last three weeks fly by, but at long last, I think I can say that my time with the game is nearing an end. Probably. Maybe. Possibly.

Since my last installment, I’ve beaten the main questline with my main bludgeoning-specialty character, and then for the hell of it, I started a Mage just to see what that was like, and view the game from an alternate perspective.

As it turns out, if you’re not distracted by an ass ton of side missions that populate 95% of the game, if you buckle down and just do the main questline as I did recently, it’s only really about 5 or 6 hours long. I thought the story was a bit weaker than past Elder Scrolls games, as the main plotline seemed to have little effect on the world, other than the fact that dragons annoyingly swooped in whenever a town started looking delicious to them.

It was very cool to actually get to go to Savangaarde for the final mission, but I was disappointed to discover that the final battle would be yet another dragon encounter. Yes, a more challenging one, but literally the exact same as the last 50 dragons I’d slain, and I even had three heroes of the realm helping me out by hacking away at it. I learned a bunch of cool new shouts, one to summon a hero of Savangaarde to come to my aide, one to summon an actual dragon I befriended, and one to force dragons to land rather than fly around for ten minutes. That last one is particularly useful, especially when even after I defeated the Alduin, dragons still swoop down to munch on me almost everywhere I go.

“You know how this is going to end, with your soul in my body and your bones in my storage bin.”

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the dragons were a cool mechanic that somehow managed to be one of the more annoying parts of the game. It was awesome at first, but then once you realized that you’d be fighting a dragon if you were in the open world for more than fifteen minutes at a time, they started to get extremely tiresome. Nearly once in every quest you’ll be interrupted by a dragon encounter, and before the Dragonrend shout, they’ll fly around for what seems like ages before you can deliver the killing blow. You have to worry about your follower and/or horse attacking them and dying, and after then have to pick up the bones and scales and transport them to your place, it’s a chore.

They should have spaced the dragon encounters out more than they did. At most, there should be one for every word of a shout you can learn. I’ve learned almost all the words at this point, yet I still have 20 dragon souls in the bank, most of which I’ll never use. And shouldn’t killing the main dragon have stopped their resurgence? It doesn’t make much sense.

Rather, more compelling than the main plotline I’ve found are the side quests, most of them found through guilds, but a few random ones have been quite entertaining as well. My favorite so far has to be one of the Daedric quests, which I didn’t even know was a Daedric quest until the end. I was challenged to a drinking contest by a patron at the bar in Whiterun, and I woke up a day later in a church with a priestess yelling at me. A-la-The Hangover, I had to retrace my steps through the night which involved stealing a goat and selling it to a giant, and proposing to a Hagraven. When I finally found my drinking buddy, he changed form into the Daedric prince of folly and debauchery, and gave me a Dremora-summoning staff. I love unique quests like that which are more than just stumbling through a dungeon hitting things.

Back to the guilds, they have been some of my favorite quests, and now I’m head of the Companions, leader of the Thieves Guild and Archmage of the College of Winterhold. That last one is particularly hilarious to me considering I didn’t use a bit of magic during that entire questline, yet somehow they see it fit to put me in charge of the whole place about two days after I joined.

Do I look like the Archmage of anything?

I don’t quite understand why the game feels the need to make you supreme ruler of each guild. You can finish each questline in a few days of game time, and it seems silly that you’re somehow promoted to leader out of the pool of members who have been there for years or decades. It’s a bit immersion breaking to say the least. At least make it so I have to wait a week to start more quests with a certain guild, or just promote me to a high level inside the guild, but don’t always automatically make me leader of every faction. I’m just starting the Dark Brotherhood quests, and I’m already guessing that by the end I’ll be High Shadow Death King or whatever their ruler is called.

I also finished the not-quite-faction quests that revolved around the civil war. The Stormcloak missions were pretty much just capturing fort after fort with 20 other Stormcloaks at my back, and I’m sure I could have beaten the imperial army to a pulp with my bare hands at that point. It was cool to storm some of the major cities, but all-in-all it was a pretty short, non-diverse questline. At the end of it, Ulfric still isn’t High King, as he’s waiting to be voted in. I figured after I beat the main questline, this would happen, but I haven’t heard anything new about it.

In trying to find and complete new missions, I’ve run into a bunch of bugs that are progressing far beyond mere annoyance now, leaving my quest queue permanently full. Every quest from the Bards College was glitched, as I had to find three instruments for its members. I turned in two of the quests, but the relatively heavy instruments remain in my inventory, with me unable to rid myself of them as they’re quest items.  The third item, Pantea’s Flute, sits in my inventory, but talking to Pantea a dozen times, I can’t even get her to give me the quest and I’m stuck with it. The same goes for the TWENTY POUND Elder Scroll I’m still trucking around. What, do they write those thing on Mammoth tusks or something?

Further frustration comes when I try to buy a house in Winterhold. Ulfric says he’ll make me Thane if I do so, but when I talk to his right hand, the man tells me I can’t buy it due to a murder that took place there. Looking online, this is a known bug that simply does not allow for the buying the house or the starting of the quest, and no matter how much time I spend in Winterhold, I can’t do either, and it seems to be permanent. I’m hoping this is able to be fixed somehow with a patch or update, but if not, that’s most disappointing.

At least my NPCs exist I suppose.

Another aspect of the game that feels a bit gltichy sometimes is the leveling system, and how easy it can be to exploit. The first trick I learned was how to get to level 100 smithing in about two hours, making money while doing so. It’s easy: buy iron from vendors, smith iron daggers, enchant daggers, sell back. The exploit is that even if you’re at high levels of smithing, forging an iron dagger doesn’t give you any less experience than an elven or orcish or daedric dagger, despite them being much more costly and complex. It seems like you’re cheating, but it’s just how the game works. I now have Legendary Daedric armor from head to toe with a shield and mace to boot as a result, and my companion Mjoll the Lioness is head to toe in Dragonbone, finally putting all those dozens of carcasses to use. Getting my Daedric armor was actually work, as I had to find enough Ebony Ore and Daedra Hearts to make it all, but now that I have, I’m more indestructible than ever. These days it’s rare to dip below 75% health even with a legion of Forsworn hacking away at me from all sides.

The worst exploits I found however were when I was playing with my mage. Some spells you have to actually be using on an enemy, like anything with Destruction, but others? Enemies merely have to be present. Therefore, if a red dot was anywhere on my screen, even if it wasn’t an active threat to me like a slaughterfish nipping at my toes as I stood on a beach, I could do a defensive Alteration spell like Oakflesh, and level up as much as my mana would allow me, which since it regenerated extremely quickly, meant I could get to a hundred in maybe an hour. Conjuration was even worse. Summoning Atronachs did almost nothing in terms of XP, but for some odd reason when I conjured two bound swords, a novice level spell that cost almost no mana, I started going up a level every other time I did that. I hit level 100 in about twenty minutes.

Now, I know what you’re going to say .It’s not fun to play like this, and you just shouldn’t take advantage. That’s true to a certain extent, particularly in my mage’s case, but as that’s my dick around character, I thought it really didn’t matter, even if it is a bug that should be fixed in the case of Conjuration especially. But for stuff like smithing? That’s just straight up the game’s fault, as there’s no other way to level that up that just building stuff, it’s not like you’re going to increase it by questing. And, really, out of principle I’m going to spend 10X more on rare ingots, and go to remote mines just so I can smith higher level stuff that gives me the same XP as iron? I don’t think so.

468 of these? Of COURSE I know how to smith Dragonbone now!

But back to my mage, who I played about 12 hours with before I did all that hyper leveling shit that sort of made me lose interesting in the character. I did like the playstyle at first, as flamethrowing and shocking and such are a lot of fun. I also finally found a use for the double hand quick select, where you press left or right twice and it brings up two copies of the same spell. I would constantly switch between double destruction and double restoration, and the quick select system worked wonders for that.

Soon however, I started getting more and more spells, and quickly the mage became far more cumbersome to play than my warrior. I would have to enter the  menu to manually select things like summoning each and every time I wanted to use it, or I’d have to stop and equip a defense spell before every single battle. Eventually the “diversity” of magic became not so diverse at all, with atronachs and flames taking on enemies, while I tried to not accidentally kill my followers in the crossfire. For comparison’s sake, I beat the mage’s guild quest line with my mage, then immediately went and beat it with my warrior. Even though the enemies leveled with me, the magic-themed questline was cake for my warrior while my mage died constantly and I had to quicksave after each enemy group I fought, lest the next one be my doom. The final boss of the questline with the mage was a forty five minute long epic battle where I had to use every scroll, potion and shout at my disposal, but with my warrior? I went up and bitch slapped him with a mace a few times and he died.

I think it just comes down to playstyle, and which you’re more comfortable with. Perhaps there are some crazy awesome high level spells that I’m missing out on, but it didn’t make the game any more fun in a specific way. I do think sneaking and stealth and archery look like a blast, but I don’t have it in me to start a third character at this point. I have noticed that two entire guilds are dedicated to stealth, the Thieves and the Dark Brotherhood, so perhaps that would have been a good choice.

Maybe next year.

So now I’m back to my original character, roaming the countryside looking for work. The major quests I keep acquiring all seem to be Daedric, and some of them are particularly brutal as in one I had to literally sacrifice one of my follows on an altar, and the other I was asked to kill a dog in order to gain a powerful axe. Serious business.

I do like how the game doesn’t really give a shit about a moral choice system. The only motivator is getting better stuff. Even though almost all of the Daedric quests involve you doing some evil shit, and there’s no corresponding “good quest” line for the Divines, you do it all anyway because you want those damn items. I didn’t kill that dog though.

Yes, I have nitpicks with the game, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with pointing out areas for improvement or game-breaking glitches. Any game that I’ve put a hundred hours into is obviously worthwhile, and Skyrim is probably going to be game of the year, even if I do have a few more titles to play before January.

Will I have another journal installment after this? Perhaps, as I don’t know how much there is left to do in the world, but I’m just going to enjoy it, and see what happens.


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  1. You mean Windhelm, not Winterhold, and yeah it seems to be one of the most common bugs. I can’t get it to trigger either and I’ve really dialed back my play time since, waiting for a patch to fix it. The latest patch ended up being fixes that the majority of players never experience or care about while breaking other things worse. Players want their quests to work. Fix that first. Or release the creation kit so the modders can fix your game for you.

  2. Man, do a stealth character, its so fun!!!
    I mean, u will be stealing houses and pickpocketing all the time.
    Just dont quicksave before pickpocketing! Go stealing things and, if u are caught, try to get out, hide and come back to the cities while the guards are on u, that’s the most thing ever! And btw, at least whiterun, solitude and riften have ways to get inside the city that are not through the main gate. It’s like an infiltration mission xD
    And nightngale armor is awesome ^^

  3. Stealth characters are fun at first, I loved mine. But now its just sneak up and 1 hit everything, even dragons. Never getting hit due to the ease of being unseen.
    The dark brotherhood quests are by far the best…

  4. As far as dealing with bugs, the PC version of the game is easiest to deal with considering all the helpful user made mods and programming fixes that the actual paid programmers can’t be bothered to worry about. If there is a bug, someone at has undoubtedly fixed it.

  5. Dude! Spoilers!

    If you only played through the main quest line, you missed a lot of the actual story. Many of the side quests overlap and add texture to the main plot. Part of the whole experience of the game is choosing your factions and learning how the different groups work into the main story.

    And I find it rather frustrating that I had NO problems with bugs in the game until the patch. Now I have run into NPC that won’t update quests, items that go missing, companions getting stuck in the world geometry, etc.

  6. You’re definitely right about too many dragons. But I swear, I still love fighting the things. They just flat-out look amazing and are animated soooooo well. But the encounters should have been kept special so you couldn’t run your own Dragon armor factory to clothe every warrior in Skyrim or power up every single dragon shout. Dragon encounters should have been kept scarce and precious and therefore epic.

  7. @Postal

    Nobody’s fixed the Windhelm quest he mentions yet. Console commands don’t work. There’s no way to force a trigger for the quest. There are methods of bypassing the quest to get the house, but then the house is bugged and full of blood and bones forever. This bug should be top of the list of things that need to be fixed.

  8. They need to fix the markarth bug, i did the jailbreak quest but the guards all still try to arrest me or attack me when im in the city, so anything that requires i go there i cant

  9. Oblivion had the same dynamic issue. No matter your character choices there comes a time when nothing is all that hard anymore.

    I’m a stealth archer and I’ve yet to find anything I can’t kill in 3 shots or less. 90% die in one. And even though I’m wearing light armor that is just shy of a t-shirt and underwear, I take imperceptible damage.

    I’m still enjoying the questing and exploring, but I too can feel the bloom dying on the vine.

  10. @Mccullough

    I’ve heard a lot of problems with that bug too. If you didn’t kill any guards during the breakout, you’d be fine. As always, killing guards gets you a bounty. When I first did it I did the breakout with the rest of the prisoners but I didn’t like the outcome of that so I redid it by assassinating the prison boss and breaking out on my own. Much better outcome, in my opinion (if you hate the Silver-Bloods you might disagree. Personally I think the Forsworn are much worse).

    If you’re on PC there are console commands to get rid of the bounty, though I’ve heard of those not working too.

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