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		<title>By: Gao</title>
		<link>http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2013/03/12/the-philosophical-hypocrisy-of-harry-potter/#comment-707098</link>
		<dc:creator>Gao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that the point of sitting down with a book is for pure enjoyment (if not for education).

Harry Potter falls into the former, mainly because it&#039;s a fantasy novel based on (well, what do you know) fiction.  With that crystal clear, we can assume that this novel is meant for entertainment.  Now, for all of each of us, there&#039;s varying forms of entertainment.  Some just want to read it to get lost in the world of wizards and witchcraft.  Others want to analyze this novel for underlying themes (most of which I think are hogwash).

It doesn&#039;t bother me one bit how hypocritical anything is (unless it blows the plot away, kind of like time paradox plot driven stories...oh, I HATE the concept of time paradox).  As long as something can get me interested and forgetting about these hypocrisies, then I would consider it successful.

Not saying that the hypocrisy isn&#039;t there, because it is.  I agree that just thinking &quot;I don&#039;t want to be Slytherin, put me in Gryffindor&quot; and placing Harry into Gryffindor was....well....it threw away the main point of a sorting hat in the first place.

This is all just my thoughts.

In the end, we can all agree that the Harry Potter series was most enjoyable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the point of sitting down with a book is for pure enjoyment (if not for education).</p>
<p>Harry Potter falls into the former, mainly because it&#8217;s a fantasy novel based on (well, what do you know) fiction.  With that crystal clear, we can assume that this novel is meant for entertainment.  Now, for all of each of us, there&#8217;s varying forms of entertainment.  Some just want to read it to get lost in the world of wizards and witchcraft.  Others want to analyze this novel for underlying themes (most of which I think are hogwash).</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t bother me one bit how hypocritical anything is (unless it blows the plot away, kind of like time paradox plot driven stories&#8230;oh, I HATE the concept of time paradox).  As long as something can get me interested and forgetting about these hypocrisies, then I would consider it successful.</p>
<p>Not saying that the hypocrisy isn&#8217;t there, because it is.  I agree that just thinking &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to be Slytherin, put me in Gryffindor&#8221; and placing Harry into Gryffindor was&#8230;.well&#8230;.it threw away the main point of a sorting hat in the first place.</p>
<p>This is all just my thoughts.</p>
<p>In the end, we can all agree that the Harry Potter series was most enjoyable.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where to begin. I haven&#039;t read all the comments, so forgive me if there&#039;s a little repetition. There seems to be a huge discrepancy about Slytherin house and JKR repeatedly bashing them and that this is inconsistent with the message of the series, particularly at the end. Slytherin was himself obsessed with blood purity and the deserving magical community. It makes total sense then that those in Slytherin, for the most part, are descended from pureblood lines and were brought up to be really snobbish about it. This is consistent throughout the series. At the end, the reason Slytherin house is escorted out is not simply because they are Slytherins, but because instead of fighting for justice and understanding that Voldemort killing Harry isn&#039;t the best option ever, they opt to sabotage the effort and throw Harry out. After MONTHS of dealing with death eaters treating everyone like scum except Slytherin house, can you really blame them for this reaction? When you combine a snobby, outdated superiority complex with ambition and a clawing desperation for power and influence, who do you really expect to come to school?

Also, JKR wrote book 1 as a desperate effort to keep herself afloat. It was a fluke that the book took off and gave her the opportunity to write more. It was supposed to be a 1 volume, self-contained story for basically elementary school students, so the premise and separation of good and evil needed to be obvious and easy to swallow. Moral complexity would have stymied JKR&#039;s purpose in writing it. Later, however, she clearly shows the breakage in stereotypes that she shows in the beginning: Harry tells his son that being in Slytherin is ok; one of the bravest men he&#039;s ever known was in Slytherin, Draco has a change of heart, along with his family, and helps in the defense effort (eventually, and only after almost dying, but still). 

It is Harry and Hermione that are the beacons of challenging normal modes in this series, as Harry is consistently called an &quot;odd&quot; wizard and is doing things that regular wizard society would consider untoward or antiestablishment. It is implied that this is because of his muggle/difficult upbringing, giving Hermione the same path, as she is the best young witch in the series and comes from a muggle household. This is affirmed in the final book when Ron is the one who has all the problems with the horcruxes, never having been away from mummy or having to deal with institutional discrimination, as he is a pureblood.

If you want to get really deep, the main abstract to conquer is, in fact, racism, as that is basically the whole reason for all the villains&#039; actions. This is overcome with love and friendship, yada yada, and those taken for granted or treated poorly because of their ancestry prove themselves to be so much more than anyone expected of them, surpassing their oppressors in value.

I appreciate the attempt at an unmasking here, but given the premise and purpose of the first novel and the subsequent character development, I must admit that I see no validity in your proposal at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where to begin. I haven&#8217;t read all the comments, so forgive me if there&#8217;s a little repetition. There seems to be a huge discrepancy about Slytherin house and JKR repeatedly bashing them and that this is inconsistent with the message of the series, particularly at the end. Slytherin was himself obsessed with blood purity and the deserving magical community. It makes total sense then that those in Slytherin, for the most part, are descended from pureblood lines and were brought up to be really snobbish about it. This is consistent throughout the series. At the end, the reason Slytherin house is escorted out is not simply because they are Slytherins, but because instead of fighting for justice and understanding that Voldemort killing Harry isn&#8217;t the best option ever, they opt to sabotage the effort and throw Harry out. After MONTHS of dealing with death eaters treating everyone like scum except Slytherin house, can you really blame them for this reaction? When you combine a snobby, outdated superiority complex with ambition and a clawing desperation for power and influence, who do you really expect to come to school?</p>
<p>Also, JKR wrote book 1 as a desperate effort to keep herself afloat. It was a fluke that the book took off and gave her the opportunity to write more. It was supposed to be a 1 volume, self-contained story for basically elementary school students, so the premise and separation of good and evil needed to be obvious and easy to swallow. Moral complexity would have stymied JKR&#8217;s purpose in writing it. Later, however, she clearly shows the breakage in stereotypes that she shows in the beginning: Harry tells his son that being in Slytherin is ok; one of the bravest men he&#8217;s ever known was in Slytherin, Draco has a change of heart, along with his family, and helps in the defense effort (eventually, and only after almost dying, but still). </p>
<p>It is Harry and Hermione that are the beacons of challenging normal modes in this series, as Harry is consistently called an &#8220;odd&#8221; wizard and is doing things that regular wizard society would consider untoward or antiestablishment. It is implied that this is because of his muggle/difficult upbringing, giving Hermione the same path, as she is the best young witch in the series and comes from a muggle household. This is affirmed in the final book when Ron is the one who has all the problems with the horcruxes, never having been away from mummy or having to deal with institutional discrimination, as he is a pureblood.</p>
<p>If you want to get really deep, the main abstract to conquer is, in fact, racism, as that is basically the whole reason for all the villains&#8217; actions. This is overcome with love and friendship, yada yada, and those taken for granted or treated poorly because of their ancestry prove themselves to be so much more than anyone expected of them, surpassing their oppressors in value.</p>
<p>I appreciate the attempt at an unmasking here, but given the premise and purpose of the first novel and the subsequent character development, I must admit that I see no validity in your proposal at all.</p>
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		<title>By: pandamonium</title>
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		<dc:creator>pandamonium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello! I&#039;d like to drop my two cents in here:
You are sorted into the houses according to what you value. So Hermione is the brightest witch in Hogwarts at the time, but she values bravery over intelligence and cleverness. 
&quot;Hermione: You&#039;ll be okay, Harry. You&#039;re a great wizard. You really are.
Harry: Not as good as you.
Hermione: Me? Books and cleverness. There are more important things: friendship and bravery. And Harry, just be careful. &quot; 
That&#039;s why she&#039;s a Griffyndor. 
Hufflepuffs value loyalty, hardwork, and fair play, Ravenclaws value intelligence and cleverness, and Slytherins value cunning, ambition, and resourcefulness.  Cedric Digory? Values fair play and loyalty over bravery, thus a Hufflepuff.  When Harry helps him, he helps Harry and keeps it fair.  Neville values bravery over other things, thus a Gryffindor. Every single bad person is a Slytherin because bad people are the ones with strong ambitions for power, they value cunning because it&#039;s how they can get what they want. However, this doesn&#039;t mean they don&#039;t have the traits other houses  value, or that they don&#039;t care for them. The characters are juts as complex as real humans. The hat takes your choice into account because you decide your values. If you value both ambition and bravery equally, then the choice is yours on which one you would value more. At the young age of 11, you don&#039;t know yourself very well yet, that&#039;s why the sorting hat is there. It picks apart your young brain and finds your values, and sorts you into the corresponding house.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! I&#8217;d like to drop my two cents in here:<br />
You are sorted into the houses according to what you value. So Hermione is the brightest witch in Hogwarts at the time, but she values bravery over intelligence and cleverness.<br />
&#8220;Hermione: You&#8217;ll be okay, Harry. You&#8217;re a great wizard. You really are.<br />
Harry: Not as good as you.<br />
Hermione: Me? Books and cleverness. There are more important things: friendship and bravery. And Harry, just be careful. &#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s why she&#8217;s a Griffyndor.<br />
Hufflepuffs value loyalty, hardwork, and fair play, Ravenclaws value intelligence and cleverness, and Slytherins value cunning, ambition, and resourcefulness.  Cedric Digory? Values fair play and loyalty over bravery, thus a Hufflepuff.  When Harry helps him, he helps Harry and keeps it fair.  Neville values bravery over other things, thus a Gryffindor. Every single bad person is a Slytherin because bad people are the ones with strong ambitions for power, they value cunning because it&#8217;s how they can get what they want. However, this doesn&#8217;t mean they don&#8217;t have the traits other houses  value, or that they don&#8217;t care for them. The characters are juts as complex as real humans. The hat takes your choice into account because you decide your values. If you value both ambition and bravery equally, then the choice is yours on which one you would value more. At the young age of 11, you don&#8217;t know yourself very well yet, that&#8217;s why the sorting hat is there. It picks apart your young brain and finds your values, and sorts you into the corresponding house.</p>
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		<title>By: hallamq</title>
		<link>http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2013/03/12/the-philosophical-hypocrisy-of-harry-potter/#comment-701548</link>
		<dc:creator>hallamq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It all started with a straight-up children&#039;s book. Rowling built from there and made the last books as &quot;mature&quot; as her audience had gotten, but there were important pieces already laid in the first, more lighthearted books. This series won&#039;t stand any philosophical scrutiny because it didn&#039;t start as adult or young-adult fantasy. Its pillars are on what was always meant to be a children´s book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all started with a straight-up children&#8217;s book. Rowling built from there and made the last books as &#8220;mature&#8221; as her audience had gotten, but there were important pieces already laid in the first, more lighthearted books. This series won&#8217;t stand any philosophical scrutiny because it didn&#8217;t start as adult or young-adult fantasy. Its pillars are on what was always meant to be a children´s book.</p>
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		<title>By: Harsha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harsha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David: I didn&#039;t realize how personal and harsh my first comment sounded when i first wrote it. I&#039;m really sorry. No offense, man.

JKR&#039;s series isn&#039;t very solid. Consistency is a problem all major book series tend to have. The harry Potter books have a lot of problems like plotholes (eg. The Time Turner, etc.) but class distinction is one that is handled pretty well. 
You make a good point about the Slytherins being exiled during the finale. This is somewhat similar to a sub-plot in Homeland(the TV show), the CIA, is prioritizing a bunch of suspects, and one of the main protagonists out rightly tells them to target the middle-Easterns in the list first. He gets called out for racial profiling. The protagonist however justifies his decision saying that it&#039;s really actual profiling because most of the terrorists he&#039;s been dealing with are from there.
In the finale, the situation was beyond just hostility, they were at war. Most of the death-eaters they were fighting against were family members of the Slytherin kids. You can&#039;t always afford to be politically correct in the middle of a crisis. Sending them back to the dungeon , was a pretty realistic decision, IMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David: I didn&#8217;t realize how personal and harsh my first comment sounded when i first wrote it. I&#8217;m really sorry. No offense, man.</p>
<p>JKR&#8217;s series isn&#8217;t very solid. Consistency is a problem all major book series tend to have. The harry Potter books have a lot of problems like plotholes (eg. The Time Turner, etc.) but class distinction is one that is handled pretty well.<br />
You make a good point about the Slytherins being exiled during the finale. This is somewhat similar to a sub-plot in Homeland(the TV show), the CIA, is prioritizing a bunch of suspects, and one of the main protagonists out rightly tells them to target the middle-Easterns in the list first. He gets called out for racial profiling. The protagonist however justifies his decision saying that it&#8217;s really actual profiling because most of the terrorists he&#8217;s been dealing with are from there.<br />
In the finale, the situation was beyond just hostility, they were at war. Most of the death-eaters they were fighting against were family members of the Slytherin kids. You can&#8217;t always afford to be politically correct in the middle of a crisis. Sending them back to the dungeon , was a pretty realistic decision, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David R The sorting hat does not use profiling.  It takes the desires of each student into account when selecting a house.  Luna could have easily been profiled for Gryffindor based on her bravery.  A theme of the novels is overcoming prejudices, which is something that everyone has.  Harry tells his son that it is OK to be in Slytherin.  Being in Slytherin doesn&#039;t mean he is a bad person, or isn&#039;t brave or clever.  And being in Slytherin won&#039;t make him a bad person.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David R The sorting hat does not use profiling.  It takes the desires of each student into account when selecting a house.  Luna could have easily been profiled for Gryffindor based on her bravery.  A theme of the novels is overcoming prejudices, which is something that everyone has.  Harry tells his son that it is OK to be in Slytherin.  Being in Slytherin doesn&#8217;t mean he is a bad person, or isn&#8217;t brave or clever.  And being in Slytherin won&#8217;t make him a bad person.</p>
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		<title>By: wevs</title>
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		<dc:creator>wevs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@I_like_icecream:
So any novel has a complex theme, philosophical undertones and morals? Even if that were true, which is not, it doesn&#039;t mean the author was correct, or didn&#039;t completely screw up the message. Popularity is not a factor *cough*twilight, 50 shades*cough*.
As I said, I enjoy the Harry Potter franchise, but it&#039;s hardly because of the genius plot - I like the characters, bar the main protagonist, because I really find him an insufferable twat as well for the most part, I also like the lore behind the universe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@I_like_icecream:<br />
So any novel has a complex theme, philosophical undertones and morals? Even if that were true, which is not, it doesn&#8217;t mean the author was correct, or didn&#8217;t completely screw up the message. Popularity is not a factor *cough*twilight, 50 shades*cough*.<br />
As I said, I enjoy the Harry Potter franchise, but it&#8217;s hardly because of the genius plot &#8211; I like the characters, bar the main protagonist, because I really find him an insufferable twat as well for the most part, I also like the lore behind the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Ty15</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ty15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 03:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although the first comment was harsh, every non-personal comment about the article is true. 

The book and the movie are complete different worlds really (Harry has blue eyes in the movies... wtf). One of the biggest problems I had with the last movie was the ending when all the Slytherins are just dismissed as bad and assumed to be on the other side, while in the book they are given an opportunity to choose. As we have seen throughout the series, Slytherin has always been defaulted to bad. Also, as other commentators have noted, Rowling has emphasized the importance of understanding that things are not always black or white. So the point in the end that summarizes the picture of Slytherin for the whole series and the untold future of that world, is that in the end it is your choices that count. Just like Slytherins were given the choice to fight for the good guys in the final battle (in the book), and just like plenty of non-Slytherns choose to do bad things. Which is why Harry tells his son in the epilogue that it doesn&#039;t matter what house he ends up in, when Albus Severus worried about ending up in Slytherin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the first comment was harsh, every non-personal comment about the article is true. </p>
<p>The book and the movie are complete different worlds really (Harry has blue eyes in the movies&#8230; wtf). One of the biggest problems I had with the last movie was the ending when all the Slytherins are just dismissed as bad and assumed to be on the other side, while in the book they are given an opportunity to choose. As we have seen throughout the series, Slytherin has always been defaulted to bad. Also, as other commentators have noted, Rowling has emphasized the importance of understanding that things are not always black or white. So the point in the end that summarizes the picture of Slytherin for the whole series and the untold future of that world, is that in the end it is your choices that count. Just like Slytherins were given the choice to fight for the good guys in the final battle (in the book), and just like plenty of non-Slytherns choose to do bad things. Which is why Harry tells his son in the epilogue that it doesn&#8217;t matter what house he ends up in, when Albus Severus worried about ending up in Slytherin.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Eagle-eyed readers will notice that every last one of the major heroic characters gets sorted into Gryffindor, the “brave” house.&quot;

So Snape, not a major heroic character. Luna Lovegood, not a major heroic character. And it seems to me that saying Hermione belonging in Ravenclaw, and Cedric Digory belonging in Gryffindor sort of undermines your point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Eagle-eyed readers will notice that every last one of the major heroic characters gets sorted into Gryffindor, the “brave” house.&#8221;</p>
<p>So Snape, not a major heroic character. Luna Lovegood, not a major heroic character. And it seems to me that saying Hermione belonging in Ravenclaw, and Cedric Digory belonging in Gryffindor sort of undermines your point.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Harry Potter will stand the test of time; I am not sure how JK&#039;s Harry Potter can be compared to George RR Martin&#039;s incomplete Game of Thrones saga. When and if he finishes, that would be a fair time to compare their works. While I am a Game of Thrones fan, I think in contrast to the Harry Potter books, which seemed to get better as the series progressed, the Song of Ice and Fire books have gotten worse. The Harry Potter series has broader appeal for sure.

Also, I disagree with most of what the author of this article had to say. I don&#039;t see any philosophical inconsistencies with sorting people by house; in fact, sorting people by their deepest values seems like a good way to sort people. Ambition isn&#039;t a bad thing. 

And I think Peter Pettigrew is a pretty solid example of an evil wizard, and HE wasn&#039;t in Slytherin house...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Harry Potter will stand the test of time; I am not sure how JK&#8217;s Harry Potter can be compared to George RR Martin&#8217;s incomplete Game of Thrones saga. When and if he finishes, that would be a fair time to compare their works. While I am a Game of Thrones fan, I think in contrast to the Harry Potter books, which seemed to get better as the series progressed, the Song of Ice and Fire books have gotten worse. The Harry Potter series has broader appeal for sure.</p>
<p>Also, I disagree with most of what the author of this article had to say. I don&#8217;t see any philosophical inconsistencies with sorting people by house; in fact, sorting people by their deepest values seems like a good way to sort people. Ambition isn&#8217;t a bad thing. </p>
<p>And I think Peter Pettigrew is a pretty solid example of an evil wizard, and HE wasn&#8217;t in Slytherin house&#8230;</p>
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