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	<title>Comments on: Debate of the Day: Anita Sarkeesian&#8217;s Damsels in Distress</title>
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		<title>By: Sara Clemens</title>
		<link>http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2013/03/11/debate-of-the-day-anita-sarkeesians-damsels-in-distress/#comment-701718</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara Clemens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus Christ, who cares? She asked for $6,000 dollars. A lot of people said &quot;shut up and take my money&quot; and gave her a lot more. Her videos (together, as a set—this is a series, remember) should look like they cost $6,000 to produce. End of story. I don&#039;t care if she wants to use the rest of the money to up the production value,  or if she wants to use it to buy out ThinkGeek&#039;s entire inventory, or if she wants to use it to set up scholarships for girls to study game development, or if she wants to hire me to write an original video game script, or if she wants to use it to live off of for the rest of the year.

Also, I didn&#039;t glean that she was accusing the gaming industry of being misogynistic, but rather sexist. And yes, she&#039;s starting with one of the oldest sexist tropes in the entire history of art for as long as we&#039;ve been a society. She isn&#039;t saying otherwise. In fact, she goes on at length in the video about how this is one of the oldest, if not the oldest, sexist tropes in the entire history of art for as long as we&#039;ve been a society. Then she moves on to specifics of the gaming industry—the focus of this series. And I do think it still needs to pointed out and talked about, simply because it still happens all the time.

If you think we don&#039;t need to talk about this anymore because the damsel in distress trope has been around forever, or you always play a badass female character when given the chance, or you think the flip side of the coin is women not appreciating the fact that they&#039;re portrayed as being so valuable that men will go through difficult trials to save them (because trashcanman, I like you, but can you really not see how incredibly objectifying that is?)  or you feel like your sacred tribal instincts are being suppressed in the name of progress, or you think she doesn&#039;t deserve to have far surpassed her fundraising goal simply because the first video in a series doesn&#039;t have your subjective stamp of approval in terms of production value, then you might want to take a minute to examine where exactly the offense you&#039;re taking from the project is coming from. Because many of these comments, especially those attacking her for raising a lot of money, sound like they&#039;re coming from a threatened, defensive place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus Christ, who cares? She asked for $6,000 dollars. A lot of people said &#8220;shut up and take my money&#8221; and gave her a lot more. Her videos (together, as a set—this is a series, remember) should look like they cost $6,000 to produce. End of story. I don&#8217;t care if she wants to use the rest of the money to up the production value,  or if she wants to use it to buy out ThinkGeek&#8217;s entire inventory, or if she wants to use it to set up scholarships for girls to study game development, or if she wants to hire me to write an original video game script, or if she wants to use it to live off of for the rest of the year.</p>
<p>Also, I didn&#8217;t glean that she was accusing the gaming industry of being misogynistic, but rather sexist. And yes, she&#8217;s starting with one of the oldest sexist tropes in the entire history of art for as long as we&#8217;ve been a society. She isn&#8217;t saying otherwise. In fact, she goes on at length in the video about how this is one of the oldest, if not the oldest, sexist tropes in the entire history of art for as long as we&#8217;ve been a society. Then she moves on to specifics of the gaming industry—the focus of this series. And I do think it still needs to pointed out and talked about, simply because it still happens all the time.</p>
<p>If you think we don&#8217;t need to talk about this anymore because the damsel in distress trope has been around forever, or you always play a badass female character when given the chance, or you think the flip side of the coin is women not appreciating the fact that they&#8217;re portrayed as being so valuable that men will go through difficult trials to save them (because trashcanman, I like you, but can you really not see how incredibly objectifying that is?)  or you feel like your sacred tribal instincts are being suppressed in the name of progress, or you think she doesn&#8217;t deserve to have far surpassed her fundraising goal simply because the first video in a series doesn&#8217;t have your subjective stamp of approval in terms of production value, then you might want to take a minute to examine where exactly the offense you&#8217;re taking from the project is coming from. Because many of these comments, especially those attacking her for raising a lot of money, sound like they&#8217;re coming from a threatened, defensive place.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As lots of people have been saying - her video just did not have anything about it that justified the HUGE amount of money she received to produce it. 

She just reels off a list of obvious and trite examples and it looks and sounds exactly the same as her old videos - so she doesn&#039;t seem to have even bought a new camera or anything.

It&#039;s starting to look worryingly like the Kickstarter money was just for her to spend 18 months without having to go to work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As lots of people have been saying &#8211; her video just did not have anything about it that justified the HUGE amount of money she received to produce it. </p>
<p>She just reels off a list of obvious and trite examples and it looks and sounds exactly the same as her old videos &#8211; so she doesn&#8217;t seem to have even bought a new camera or anything.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s starting to look worryingly like the Kickstarter money was just for her to spend 18 months without having to go to work.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Her kickstarter goal was $6000.  The internet gave her $150,000 to fund her project.  The more you know...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her kickstarter goal was $6000.  The internet gave her $150,000 to fund her project.  The more you know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2013/03/11/debate-of-the-day-anita-sarkeesians-damsels-in-distress/#comment-701217</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carmelo: We may disagree, but I do apologize for the &quot;threw up a little&quot; comment. That wasn&#039;t a useful thing to say in a debate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carmelo: We may disagree, but I do apologize for the &#8220;threw up a little&#8221; comment. That wasn&#8217;t a useful thing to say in a debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Clemens</title>
		<link>http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2013/03/11/debate-of-the-day-anita-sarkeesians-damsels-in-distress/#comment-701215</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara Clemens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric, I&#039;m fairly certain her later installments are going to address all or nearly all the suggestions in your second paragraph. I think she might be easing into things with this first one. Might as well start at the beginning with one of the oldest (as other commenters pointed out) narrative tropes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, I&#8217;m fairly certain her later installments are going to address all or nearly all the suggestions in your second paragraph. I think she might be easing into things with this first one. Might as well start at the beginning with one of the oldest (as other commenters pointed out) narrative tropes.</p>
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		<title>By: H</title>
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		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not good at arguing but she seems to have totally missed Metroid from her £150k research project.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not good at arguing but she seems to have totally missed Metroid from her £150k research project.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Juneau</title>
		<link>http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2013/03/11/debate-of-the-day-anita-sarkeesians-damsels-in-distress/#comment-701163</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Juneau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Short response: nothing that I didn&#039;t already know.  Nothing that&#039;s not starting to change in the VG world (slowly, but surely).  Video games market to male adolescents.  Games (especially early ones) don&#039;t have a lot of space to give story or motivation, and damsel in distress is an easy way to do that.  The first episode didn&#039;t live up to all the hype.

I wish she had started with a topic a little more eyebrow-raising, something people wouldn&#039;t think about.  Like female heroes vs. female villains, video game &quot;rape culture&quot; (if that&#039;s a thing), sexuality in video games, video game Bechdel tests, facets of female characters, women&#039;s role in each genre (war, JRPG, platformer, horror, etc), games that got it &quot;right&quot; (Beyond Good and Evil, Half-Life 2), games that people think got it &quot;right&quot; but got it wrong (Metroid: Other M), harrassment, games aimed directly at girls (and what&#039;s good and bad about them).  She could probably do an entire episode on Samus or Lara Croft.

I hope she branches out because she&#039;s not saying much other than examples -- no results, no consequences.  And I can get the same effect from Extra Credits (S1E12: Diversity, S1E20: Sexuality Diversity, S2E7: True Female Characters) with cuter pictures.  They talk about the &quot;why&quot; and &quot;what can we do about it&quot;, not just the &quot;what&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short response: nothing that I didn&#8217;t already know.  Nothing that&#8217;s not starting to change in the VG world (slowly, but surely).  Video games market to male adolescents.  Games (especially early ones) don&#8217;t have a lot of space to give story or motivation, and damsel in distress is an easy way to do that.  The first episode didn&#8217;t live up to all the hype.</p>
<p>I wish she had started with a topic a little more eyebrow-raising, something people wouldn&#8217;t think about.  Like female heroes vs. female villains, video game &#8220;rape culture&#8221; (if that&#8217;s a thing), sexuality in video games, video game Bechdel tests, facets of female characters, women&#8217;s role in each genre (war, JRPG, platformer, horror, etc), games that got it &#8220;right&#8221; (Beyond Good and Evil, Half-Life 2), games that people think got it &#8220;right&#8221; but got it wrong (Metroid: Other M), harrassment, games aimed directly at girls (and what&#8217;s good and bad about them).  She could probably do an entire episode on Samus or Lara Croft.</p>
<p>I hope she branches out because she&#8217;s not saying much other than examples &#8212; no results, no consequences.  And I can get the same effect from Extra Credits (S1E12: Diversity, S1E20: Sexuality Diversity, S2E7: True Female Characters) with cuter pictures.  They talk about the &#8220;why&#8221; and &#8220;what can we do about it&#8221;, not just the &#8220;what&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carmelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Alec

&quot;I think I just threw up a little.&quot;

Sorry to hear that your not feeling well. 

Anyway, I don&#039;t understand why it&#039;s taboo to suggest that men might have psychological needs that &quot;the Knight in Shinning Armor&quot; tropes might address. We used to be the &quot;Tribal&quot; warriors and protectors. and mother nature saw fit to wire into us a &quot;craving&quot; to be the hero and to rescue and defend those amongst our tribe that we perceive as weak (not calling women weak just making a point).

These hard wired instincts didn&#039;t just go away during to outset of feminism, instead men have been trying (with varying degrees of success) to channel these feelings into other avenues, and yes one of those avenues is video games.

I am not some sexist thug who hates any attempt at female empowerment. I embrace equality in all it&#039;s forms. However I don&#039;t think mens needs should be sacrificed to make women feel better. 

And lastly as a Black person myself, I am well aware of what it&#039;s like to not feel adequately represented in the game industry. You said that you could count the number of female heroes in two hands, well I can count the number of Black main (not sidekicks or sports simulator) characters in one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alec</p>
<p>&#8220;I think I just threw up a little.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry to hear that your not feeling well. </p>
<p>Anyway, I don&#8217;t understand why it&#8217;s taboo to suggest that men might have psychological needs that &#8220;the Knight in Shinning Armor&#8221; tropes might address. We used to be the &#8220;Tribal&#8221; warriors and protectors. and mother nature saw fit to wire into us a &#8220;craving&#8221; to be the hero and to rescue and defend those amongst our tribe that we perceive as weak (not calling women weak just making a point).</p>
<p>These hard wired instincts didn&#8217;t just go away during to outset of feminism, instead men have been trying (with varying degrees of success) to channel these feelings into other avenues, and yes one of those avenues is video games.</p>
<p>I am not some sexist thug who hates any attempt at female empowerment. I embrace equality in all it&#8217;s forms. However I don&#8217;t think mens needs should be sacrificed to make women feel better. </p>
<p>And lastly as a Black person myself, I am well aware of what it&#8217;s like to not feel adequately represented in the game industry. You said that you could count the number of female heroes in two hands, well I can count the number of Black main (not sidekicks or sports simulator) characters in one.</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This looks the same as the videos before she got all the funds, that makes me scared. Also, I personally dont see how a character in a video game would ever affect me so I dont care if it&#039;s a male or a female in trouble being saved by either. 

One thing I do have to say is that whilst she speaks for 20min, she only ever repeats the title, by just reading the title you know everything she has to say. Her points are a bit weak]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks the same as the videos before she got all the funds, that makes me scared. Also, I personally dont see how a character in a video game would ever affect me so I dont care if it&#8217;s a male or a female in trouble being saved by either. </p>
<p>One thing I do have to say is that whilst she speaks for 20min, she only ever repeats the title, by just reading the title you know everything she has to say. Her points are a bit weak</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tassi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Tassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s an interesting point. I think the porn industry is far more responsible for modern misogyny than video games ever will be. That said, I think at the very least, it&#039;s an informative video, and seems like it will be a worthwhile series. I&#039;m not sure why people seem to take a different stance than their used to seeing as somehow offensive. Nor do I get why people begrudge her raising money on the back of a bunch of personal attacks on her, whether she was &quot;trolling&quot; or not. The problem isn&#039;t with her, it&#039;s with those who reacted to her the way they did. $150,000 didn&#039;t just come out of thin air. Enough people thought this was a good idea and they wanted to hear more from her.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an interesting point. I think the porn industry is far more responsible for modern misogyny than video games ever will be. That said, I think at the very least, it&#8217;s an informative video, and seems like it will be a worthwhile series. I&#8217;m not sure why people seem to take a different stance than their used to seeing as somehow offensive. Nor do I get why people begrudge her raising money on the back of a bunch of personal attacks on her, whether she was &#8220;trolling&#8221; or not. The problem isn&#8217;t with her, it&#8217;s with those who reacted to her the way they did. $150,000 didn&#8217;t just come out of thin air. Enough people thought this was a good idea and they wanted to hear more from her.</p>
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