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	<title>Comments on: New Favorite Thing: The Hawkeye Initiative</title>
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		<title>By: Grendeltheblack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grendeltheblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 04:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[trashcanman and carmelo hit the nail on the head.


I am a guy, I like comic books, I like women, I like sexually stimulation images of women, ( and realise they&#039;re not real). does that mean I think women are beneath me? no.  do I think women are somehow weaker, dumber or less capable then men? not really. am I somehow a horrible female hating mysogynist who wants to rape every woman I see, or send them all back to the kitchen? hardly. 
 I just happen to think women look better then men is all.

the hawkeye initiative is hilarious, if you stop pushing feminist politics on it, Hawkeye looks goofy in those poses because he&#039;s a guy, it&#039;s not being sexist, it&#039;s stating a fact, men and women do have different body types , what looks sexual on one can look silly on another, except duck face, that looks ridiculous on everybody]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trashcanman and carmelo hit the nail on the head.</p>
<p>I am a guy, I like comic books, I like women, I like sexually stimulation images of women, ( and realise they&#8217;re not real). does that mean I think women are beneath me? no.  do I think women are somehow weaker, dumber or less capable then men? not really. am I somehow a horrible female hating mysogynist who wants to rape every woman I see, or send them all back to the kitchen? hardly.<br />
 I just happen to think women look better then men is all.</p>
<p>the hawkeye initiative is hilarious, if you stop pushing feminist politics on it, Hawkeye looks goofy in those poses because he&#8217;s a guy, it&#8217;s not being sexist, it&#8217;s stating a fact, men and women do have different body types , what looks sexual on one can look silly on another, except duck face, that looks ridiculous on everybody</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamMcScott</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamMcScott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eh... I think trashcanman hit the nail on the head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh&#8230; I think trashcanman hit the nail on the head.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carmelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[STOP IT! Stop making men feel bad for our natural instinct, to indulge in sexually stimulating imagery. It is a natural part of masculinity.   Seriously people, not everything male oriented is bad, and not everything feminine is right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STOP IT! Stop making men feel bad for our natural instinct, to indulge in sexually stimulating imagery. It is a natural part of masculinity.   Seriously people, not everything male oriented is bad, and not everything feminine is right.</p>
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		<title>By: Draugr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Draugr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[side note:

Whenever I see a skimpily-dressed comic book character I&#039;m always reminded of the line from mystery men (a classic! ;))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzWN4v2Ck0s]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>side note:</p>
<p>Whenever I see a skimpily-dressed comic book character I&#8217;m always reminded of the line from mystery men (a classic! <img src='http://unrealitymag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzWN4v2Ck0s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzWN4v2Ck0s</a></p>
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		<title>By: Draugr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Draugr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@trashcanman
&quot;. Fictional womens’ rights….yeah, is that where feminism is now? Look on Facebook and the like and see how many women are taking sexy shots of themselves, in swimwear and skimpy clothing and posting them online.&quot;

Feminism can worry about comics books too, and &#039;it&#039; can still worry about other issues as well - People worry about more than one thing all the time!.
Getting on with your comments though, you&#039;re assuminig we&#039;ll make the same mistake you do and  we&#039;ll just pretend all woman act exactly like  women on facebook all the time....Absurd. I don&#039;t want to ruin the surprise but just like with men, women are diverse and have varying opinions on things, and participate in different behaviors...I mean I can find some vain dude taking pictures of themselves on facebook, in skimpy outfits even. I&#039;d be an idiot to pretend that all men are like that, and then hold that up as an example of how men actually wanted to be treated as sex objects. Not even all women on facebook engage in this behavior so it is of course a flawed premise.

&quot;Go to a club and see how it is in there. In our culture men mostly want to be big, strong, handsome, smart, and cool and women mostly want to be sexy, stylish, and all that.&quot;

Yes, all men and women want to be seen as attractive - what a silly assertion. If we used the club as an example of a rflection of culture I think we&#039;d all be in pretty dire straights. Again this is cherrypicking demoraphics to try and prove a point, and requires us to ignore the thousands of other people who aren&#039;t engaged in this behavior for us to accept it. I find it hilarious that you tried pointing out that women want different things and the way you described that contrast was with synonyms. Oh except for women it was all about looks, only with men were you concerned with their character/disposition - how telling!

 &quot;I’d say strong and independent as well, but Twilight pretty much proved that to be a myth.&quot;

Again, you&#039;re pigeonhiling and ignoring thousands of examples that prove the contrary.

 &quot;So here’s my idea, aspiring artists: the Frost Initiative. In the name of equality you take famous badass poses of manly man characters like Hulk, Hellboy, and the like and you replace them in the picture with comic sex-kitten Emma Frost complete with ass-kicking facial expression.&quot;

So essentially, your asking them to do a similar thing the picture has already done, which is to highlight the absurdity. I mean shit, when you describe emma frost you voluntarily use the words &quot;sex-kitten&quot; I mean if your post doesn&#039;t speak to the very issue that is being discussed  I don&#039;t know what would. You might as well have said I went to the strip club the other day and there were female strippers there, ergo all women want to be strippers.&quot;

Every time this conversation comes up someone comes along who needs to pretend that a male power fantasy  is the same as the some sexual fantasy of a female. That&#039;s a false equivalency. this picture highlights how absurd that notion is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@trashcanman<br />
&#8220;. Fictional womens’ rights….yeah, is that where feminism is now? Look on Facebook and the like and see how many women are taking sexy shots of themselves, in swimwear and skimpy clothing and posting them online.&#8221;</p>
<p>Feminism can worry about comics books too, and &#8216;it&#8217; can still worry about other issues as well &#8211; People worry about more than one thing all the time!.<br />
Getting on with your comments though, you&#8217;re assuminig we&#8217;ll make the same mistake you do and  we&#8217;ll just pretend all woman act exactly like  women on facebook all the time&#8230;.Absurd. I don&#8217;t want to ruin the surprise but just like with men, women are diverse and have varying opinions on things, and participate in different behaviors&#8230;I mean I can find some vain dude taking pictures of themselves on facebook, in skimpy outfits even. I&#8217;d be an idiot to pretend that all men are like that, and then hold that up as an example of how men actually wanted to be treated as sex objects. Not even all women on facebook engage in this behavior so it is of course a flawed premise.</p>
<p>&#8220;Go to a club and see how it is in there. In our culture men mostly want to be big, strong, handsome, smart, and cool and women mostly want to be sexy, stylish, and all that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, all men and women want to be seen as attractive &#8211; what a silly assertion. If we used the club as an example of a rflection of culture I think we&#8217;d all be in pretty dire straights. Again this is cherrypicking demoraphics to try and prove a point, and requires us to ignore the thousands of other people who aren&#8217;t engaged in this behavior for us to accept it. I find it hilarious that you tried pointing out that women want different things and the way you described that contrast was with synonyms. Oh except for women it was all about looks, only with men were you concerned with their character/disposition &#8211; how telling!</p>
<p> &#8220;I’d say strong and independent as well, but Twilight pretty much proved that to be a myth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, you&#8217;re pigeonhiling and ignoring thousands of examples that prove the contrary.</p>
<p> &#8220;So here’s my idea, aspiring artists: the Frost Initiative. In the name of equality you take famous badass poses of manly man characters like Hulk, Hellboy, and the like and you replace them in the picture with comic sex-kitten Emma Frost complete with ass-kicking facial expression.&#8221;</p>
<p>So essentially, your asking them to do a similar thing the picture has already done, which is to highlight the absurdity. I mean shit, when you describe emma frost you voluntarily use the words &#8220;sex-kitten&#8221; I mean if your post doesn&#8217;t speak to the very issue that is being discussed  I don&#8217;t know what would. You might as well have said I went to the strip club the other day and there were female strippers there, ergo all women want to be strippers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Every time this conversation comes up someone comes along who needs to pretend that a male power fantasy  is the same as the some sexual fantasy of a female. That&#8217;s a false equivalency. this picture highlights how absurd that notion is.</p>
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		<title>By: trashcanman</title>
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		<dc:creator>trashcanman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sexualizing women is fine so long as the woman consents.  I thought this was agreed upon.  Fictional womens&#039; rights....yeah, is that where feminism is now?   Look on Facebook and the like and see how many women are taking sexy shots of themselves, in swimwear and skimpy clothing and posting them online. Go to a club and see how it is in there.  In our culture men mostly want to be big, strong, handsome, smart, and cool and women mostly want to be sexy, stylish, and all that.  I&#039;d say strong and independent as well, but Twilight pretty much proved that to be a myth.  So here&#039;s my idea, aspiring artists: the Frost Initiative.  In the name of equality you take famous badass poses of manly man characters like Hulk, Hellboy, and the like and you replace them in the picture with comic sex-kitten Emma Frost complete with ass-kicking facial expression. 
 Examples to use:

http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Planet-Hulk-2010-1-570x320.jpg

http://marvelitesxmen.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/20100810034128thor_vol_1_600_dellotto_variant_textless.jpg

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs6/i/2005/078/a/3/Hellboy_by_misterbitter.jpg


Oh my god, I am so offended by the overt aggressiveness of male comic book characters!  If I see that, I&#039;m totally going to go punch random strangers because it will warp my brain and stuff!  Oh wait, it&#039;s just a story about make believe people.   I guess it&#039;s kind of stupid to make that a political thing.  Never mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sexualizing women is fine so long as the woman consents.  I thought this was agreed upon.  Fictional womens&#8217; rights&#8230;.yeah, is that where feminism is now?   Look on Facebook and the like and see how many women are taking sexy shots of themselves, in swimwear and skimpy clothing and posting them online. Go to a club and see how it is in there.  In our culture men mostly want to be big, strong, handsome, smart, and cool and women mostly want to be sexy, stylish, and all that.  I&#8217;d say strong and independent as well, but Twilight pretty much proved that to be a myth.  So here&#8217;s my idea, aspiring artists: the Frost Initiative.  In the name of equality you take famous badass poses of manly man characters like Hulk, Hellboy, and the like and you replace them in the picture with comic sex-kitten Emma Frost complete with ass-kicking facial expression.<br />
 Examples to use:</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Planet-Hulk-2010-1-570x320.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Planet-Hulk-2010-1-570&#215;320.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://marvelitesxmen.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/20100810034128thor_vol_1_600_dellotto_variant_textless.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://marvelitesxmen.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/20100810034128thor_vol_1_600_dellotto_variant_textless.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs6/i/2005/078/a/3/Hellboy_by_misterbitter.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs6/i/2005/078/a/3/Hellboy_by_misterbitter.jpg</a></p>
<p>Oh my god, I am so offended by the overt aggressiveness of male comic book characters!  If I see that, I&#8217;m totally going to go punch random strangers because it will warp my brain and stuff!  Oh wait, it&#8217;s just a story about make believe people.   I guess it&#8217;s kind of stupid to make that a political thing.  Never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Morales</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul,

I think this really demonstrates exactly what your Forbes article is discussing, men and women are simply different.  It is pretty difficult, nigh impossible, to sexualize men in the same way.  Part of this may be cultural, I think part is biological, men just tend to be more visually-oriented then women (thus why men are the primary consumers of porn).  That doesn&#039;t mean that sexualizing women is ok, but I think it is an important part of the conversation that people miss.  You can&#039;t treat men and women exactly the same, because, well, they&#039;re not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I think this really demonstrates exactly what your Forbes article is discussing, men and women are simply different.  It is pretty difficult, nigh impossible, to sexualize men in the same way.  Part of this may be cultural, I think part is biological, men just tend to be more visually-oriented then women (thus why men are the primary consumers of porn).  That doesn&#8217;t mean that sexualizing women is ok, but I think it is an important part of the conversation that people miss.  You can&#8217;t treat men and women exactly the same, because, well, they&#8217;re not.</p>
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		<title>By: Dzuksi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dzuksi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They did something similar with Catwoman ridiculous cover pose

http://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/2012/06/sexist-catwoman-0-cover-parodies/#page/1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They did something similar with Catwoman ridiculous cover pose</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/2012/06/sexist-catwoman-0-cover-parodies/#page/1" rel="nofollow">http://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/2012/06/sexist-catwoman-0-cover-parodies/#page/1</a></p>
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