To end this, I loved the movie, I really, really loved it, but I will aknowledge that it had it’s problems, but none of them were as bad as all these others have been complaining about.

As already described; the fact that the ending is given away when Alice first his Wonderland is dissapointing to say the least and the lack of overall substance in a movie that was based on possibly the most interesting Disney cartoon of all time is simply ridiculous.

I have to agree that The Red Queen is the most appealing part of this movie. HBC was fantastic in the role and despite Tim Burton’s clear lack of diversity in everything he does and how tired his stupid curley wirley hills and gothic trees are getting, he hit the nail bang on the head with the direction he took with this character.

I get what you’re saying about the Mad Hatter being under developed but I have to say, I loved how he would go in and out of the Scottish Broag depending on the situation i.e. when he felt threatened or when he’s not playing the vulnerable Hatter…for anyone to question why this was happening or to consider it “confusing” as one guy did is simply moronic. It’s clear that it was put in place to describe his schizophrenic nature.

I too liked the “Fatboys”. they were something different that I wasnt expecting and worked well. The rest of the characters, although being simple 3d versions of they’re former selves were also pleasing as, lets be honest here, we didnt go to see “Alice In Wonderland 3D” to see a completely different movie with little reference to the original and the voice acting on all these characters was superb.

So to sum up, I would say that should they make a similar type of remake with say, Phantasm…DO NOT give it to Tim Burton and DO NOT tell us how the movie will end within the first 20mins!! Could have and should have been a 8/9 out of 10 movie but instead, I’d give it a 5.

And this is only semi-related to the film, but I’ve been curious as to whether or not Carrol was implying that (playing) cards were inferior to chess due to one being the lumbering and slightly clumsy minions of evil, while the others are dignified soldiers of good??? Or perhaps i’m reading too much into nothingness.

Burton’s best stuff has always been when he gets to run loose with original ideas. I loved Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice and Nightmare Before Christmas. He did a pretty good job with Pee Wee and Batman too, even though those weren’t original ideas.

That said, I was really hoping the inherent psychological content/symbolism/depth in Alice would hold up even with Burton’s visual method of storytelling. It seems as though that is not the case.